[arch-general] ownCloud vs. nextcloud

[David Runge]

Helloes!

I wonder what Arch's/Sergej Pupykin's position towards nextcloud is.
It seems that ownCloud lost most of its developers to the schism
introduced last year.
This led to many apps not being (mainly) developed by them anymore and
moving into the hands of nextcloud and/or being more actively developed
by nextcloud now (bookmarks, news, calendar, etc.)

There definitely also has been a problem transitioning from php 7.0.x to
7.1 as the current version of ownCloud now has a "hotfix" applied that
just suppresses the error message (which would render owncloud useless,
as owncloud < 9.2 suppossedly doesn't work with php 7.1).
The bookmark app is currently unusable (unable to add new bookmarks due
to an old version of guzzlehttp dependency) and I wonder how much more
of that we'll have incoming.

Wouldn't it be better to switch to nextcloud in the community repository at
this point?

Best,
David

[Jelle van der Waa]

Post by David Runge
Helloes!
I wonder what Arch's/Sergej Pupykin's position towards nextcloud is.
It seems that ownCloud lost most of its developers to the schism
introduced last year.

Might be wise to include him in the TO field then ;-)

Post by David Runge
Wouldn't it be better to switch to nextcloud in the community repository at
this point?

You could make a bug report on our tracker under the community section
:)

[David Runge]

Post by Jelle van der Waa

Post by David Runge
Helloes!
I wonder what Arch's/Sergej Pupykin's position towards nextcloud is.
It seems that ownCloud lost most of its developers to the schism
introduced last year.

Might be wise to include him in the TO field then ;-)

Well, I assumed he might be reading this mailing list, too. ;-)

Post by Jelle van der Waa

Post by David Runge
Wouldn't it be better to switch to nextcloud in the community repository at
this point?

You could make a bug report on our tracker under the community section
:)

I could, sure (and will, if this seems preferred). But what is this? A
feature request? Just wondered, if this discussion would not be
something more suited for the mailing.

Best,
David

[David Runge]

Post by Jelle van der Waa
You could make a bug report on our tracker under the community section

Just did: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/52791

[Jelle van der Waa]

Post by David Runge

Post by Jelle van der Waa
You could make a bug report on our tracker under the community section

Just did: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/52791

Thanks, assigned so that sergej knows about it :)

[Damjan Georgievski via arch-general]

Post by David Runge
Helloes!
I wonder what Arch's/Sergej Pupykin's position towards nextcloud is.
It seems that ownCloud lost most of its developers to the schism
introduced last year.
This led to many apps not being (mainly) developed by them anymore and
moving into the hands of nextcloud and/or being more actively developed
by nextcloud now (bookmarks, news, calendar, etc.)
There definitely also has been a problem transitioning from php 7.0.x to
7.1 as the current version of ownCloud now has a "hotfix" applied that
just suppresses the error message (which would render owncloud useless,
as owncloud < 9.2 suppossedly doesn't work with php 7.1).
The bookmark app is currently unusable (unable to add new bookmarks due
to an old version of guzzlehttp dependency) and I wonder how much more
of that we'll have incoming.
Wouldn't it be better to switch to nextcloud in the community repository at
this point?

I'd just vote for the package (if it enters community) to remove the
set-perms[1] script
since it makes no sense, if you run the app with its own user (for ex.
uwsgi systemd service, user nextcloud).


[1]
https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/set-nc-perms.sh?h=nextcloud